Who or what is an Ikhwani, Salafi, and Sufi – Part II

Part II: Who are the Ikhwanis’:


This is the second part of the a series titled Who or what is an Ikhwani, Salafi, and Sufi. To read part I please click here

Taken from www.ikhwanonline.com , The Ikhwan said describing themselves:

إنهم دعوة سلفية، إذ يدعون إلى العودة إلى الإسلام، إلى معينه الصافي، إلى كتاب الله وسنة نبيه -عليه الصلاة والسلام- وطريقة سنية، إذ يحملون أنفسهم على العمل بالسنة المطهرة في كل شيء، خاصةً في العقائد والعبادات.

وهي حقيقة صوفية، يعلمون أن أساس الخير طهارة النفس، ونقاء القلب، وسلامة الصدر، والمواظبة على العمل، والإعراض عن الخلق، والحب في الله، والأخوة فيه سبحانه.

وهم هيئة سياسية، يطالبون بالإصلاح في الحكم، وتعديل النظر في صلة الأمة بغيرها من الأمم، وتربية الشعب على العزة والكرامة.

وهم جماعة رياضية، يعتنون بالصحة، ويعلمون أن المؤمن القوي هو خير من المؤمن الضعيف، ويلتزمون قول النبي -صلى الله عليه وسلم-: “إن لبدنك عليك حقًا”، وأن تكاليف الإسلام كلها لا يمكن أن تُؤدى إلا بالجسم القوي، والقلب الذاخر بالإيمان، والذهن ذي الفهم الصحيح.

وهم رابطة علمية وثقافية، فالعلم في الإسلام فريضة يحض عليها، وعلى طلبها، ولو كان في الصين، والدولة تنهض على الإيمان.. والعلم.

وهم شركة اقتصادية، فالإسلام يُعنَى بتدبير المال وكسبه، والنبي-صلى الله عليه وسلم- يقول: “نعم المال الصالح للرجل الصالح” و(من أمسى كالاً من عمل يده أمسى مغفورًا له).

كما أنهم فكرة اجتماعية، يعنون بأدواء المجتمع، ويحاولون الوصول إلى طرق علاجها وشفاء الأمة منها.

هذا الفهم للإسلام يؤكد على شمول معنى الإسلام، الذي جاء شاملاً لكل أوجه ومناحي الحياة، ولكل أمور الدنيا والآخرة.

It is (this movement) a salafi movement, as they call to going back to Islam, to its pure meaning, to the book of Allah and the Sunnah of His messenger (peace be upon Him) and his Sunni tareqa, as they discipline themselves to work using the purified Sunnah in everything especially in their Aqeedah and worship to Allah.

Its a Sufi truth, as they know that the foundation of good is self purification, and purifying the heart, and a continuous work, and avoiding people, and the love for the sake of Allah, and the brotherhood in His name, exalted is He.

They are a political organization, asking for reform in governing (the people), and amend the relationship between the Ummah and there nations and raising people’s pride and dignity

They are a sports group, they take care of their healthand know that the strong believer is better than the weak one. They are committed to the statement of the Prophet when he said “Indeed your body has a right upon you” and that the obligations of Islam could never be preformed unless one is of a strong body and a heart full of iman and a mind with correct understanding.

They are the Association of science and intellect for science in the duty obligated on Muslims, one must request it, even if it was in China, and any State rises on Iman .. And knowledge.

They are economics firm, for Islam cares about earning money, and the Prophet – peace be upon him – said: “blessed is the good money for good man” and (who ever became tired of his work has been forgiven (from Allah)).

They are also the idea of social ideology care about illness of the society, attempting to reach their treatment and cure the nation from them.

This understanding of Islam emphasize the comprehensiveness of the meaning of Islam, which was inclusive of all aspects and walks of life, and all things the world and the Hereafter.

This is what Hasan AlBanna (may Allah forgive his sins .. ameen) tried to build this movement upon. It originally was a Islamic-Political-Anti colonization movement that started in Egypt to fight the British in Egypt. I was told when I was in Egypt that they actually were the real fuel behind the revolution that took place in 1952 that led to changing the political system from a Kingdom to a Republic.

Fast forwarding to 1992 when the Muslim American Society (MAS) started in the United States. According to their website they were the one who started (or caused the foundation of) the following organizations:
1- Muslim Student Association (MSA)
2- The North American Islamic Trust (NAIT)
3- the Islamic Medical Association (IMA)
4- the Muslim Arab Youth Association (MAYA)
5- the Muslim Youth of North America (MYNA)
6- Islamic Society of North America (ISNA)

One of their most famous Shiyook internationally is Shaykh Yousuf AlQaradawi. Famous for this book, The Halal and The Haram. On a National level and maybe through out the West, Imam Suhaib Webb is known to be affiliated with MAS (and AlMaghrib Institute as he is the newest addition to their faculty) as he himself declared this on his Facebook page

Lots of criticism (from non-Muslims and Muslims equally) was directed toward this movement, some of which are:

Very Important note: I tried my best not to share my own personal views (thou I agree with some of the below criticisms).

- They are liberal in their views when it comes to Fiqh in America
- They permit music on the bases of a difference of opinion in the Shafi’ school
- They are less strict on inter-gender relationships
- They are power hungry. They always want to control their community.
- They are media hungry. They always wish to be on the news.
- They aim to start an Islamic State (Caliphate) <- this is mainly directed from the Western Media
- Some of their halaqaat is very secretive (the Usra system is a system where they educate those who follow their ideology about matters of deen aka Tarbiya program)
- They are not creative and always repeat what other organizations are already doing. This is clear in so many instances.
- They charge people to become part of their movement. (If you didnt know, in order to be an active member of MAS, you must pay 2.5% of your monthly growth income. Look at their membership forms)
- They are called Wahhabis. This is a mistake though, matter of fact, they stand against one of the fundamental ideas of Wahhabis which is “Its Haram to go against the Muslim ruler”

Some of the praiseworthy efforts of MAS in America:
- They are partially able to outreach the Arab Americans who are disfranchised from most communities.
- They (amongst other organizations) have raised political awareness amongst Muslims in America.
- They have a well defined one of a kind national Muslim infrastructure.
- They have one of the few good Muslim boyscout and girl scout in the nation
- They usually stay away from issues of Aqeedah debate (between Salafis and Sufis primarily)
- They are known for some successful national initiatives like VIP (Voting is Power) program and others.
- Known for their focus on the youth and the creation of MAS-Youth Centers all over the nation.

If you see a person who says that he/she is MAS, respect their opinions and affiliations even if you disagree with them.

22 Responses to “Who or what is an Ikhwani, Salafi, and Sufi – Part II”

  1. Anima Says:

    Wow, that was actually a great load of information. Maybe I’ll go around calling myself an Ikhwani for fun.

    I miss you <3

  2. haytham Says:

    hahaha… wait wait… the salafi and sufi one coming out soon… so wait and make up your mind then

    i miss you too :)

  3. anon Says:

    do u have a source or validity to what u say? or is just heresy?

  4. aboo saleem pheku Says:

    heresy… quite the loaded term… are you by any chance affiliated with MAS?

  5. haytham Says:

    @ anon… which part do you need a source for?

  6. anon Says:

    sorry, i meant “hearsay”, not heresy…please forgive me!

    and no, i am not affiliated with them, but i have interacted with them and i do not agree with some of the above based on what i have seen. i heard suhaib webb once say himself in regards to MAS: “we r not ikhwan…we have taken some of their principles that work, but in no way are linked to them. we may decide something that is totally opposite.”

    what i am trying to get to is are we just passing on rumors/criticisms that are invalid? or are we substantiating them. from your post, it seems like u r debasing one criticism (the wahabi one), but letting others pass (i.e. agreeing with them). i am not saying that we shouldnt criticize, but to know what we are talking about, accurately and truthfully 100%.

    i understand u r just writing your thoughts/opinions and this is not a scholarly article, but it doesnt seem fair if a random person doesnt know about the org, reads this, and reiterates your points. word of mouth spreads like wildfire and it doesnt help when they are not true.

    for the sake of argument, u being affiliated with al-maghrib, is it fair if i made an observation/criticism that al-maghrib is (fill in the blank) and ran with it, even before taking a class or after superficially interacting with you. wouldnt you feel ur reputation and honor damaged?

    lastly, i praise ur last statement about respecting them regardless. that should be our attitude with all orgs.

    u may disagree, but jazak Allah khair for trying to address me. i dont want u to feel obligated to answer me and we don’t have to go back and forth. insha Allah, just a little more thought next time, esp with the salafee and sufi posts coming up! again, please forgive me if i have hurt or wronged u in any way. i didnt mean to do that!

  7. haytham Says:

    Thanks for you polite response… I am in the lab right now working on my experiment.. and inshaAllah I will reply back to you as soon as I get the chance later on today.

  8. haytham Says:

    Bismillah,

    i understand u r just writing your thoughts/opinions and this is not a scholarly article

    I tried as mush as possible not to include my thoughts/opinions but that doesn’t mean I cant agree with what is known as a fact. I admit tho, this isnt a journal to be quoted by others as a “scholarly article” but I would like to believe that it is of a degree of authenticity and truth.

    i heard suhaib webb once say himself in regards to MAS: “we r not ikhwan…we have taken some of their principles that work, but in no way are linked to them. we may decide something that is totally opposite.”

    I heard a few of their leadership personals who said the same thing too, but this is very confusing. Look at the statement itself: we are not ikhwan,[but] we have taken some of their principles that work.

    Its the same ideology. This is clear and they themselves admit it. I dont see this as a bad thing, or a good thing for that matter. Yet it is the truth.

    I can understand why they don’t want to be linked to them due to political reasons (i.e. The Ikhwan are known to western governments to be “not very moderate” group…. ).

    what i am trying to get to is are we just passing on rumors/criticisms that are invalid? or are we substantiating them. from your post, it seems like u r debasing one criticism (the wahabi one), but letting others pass (i.e. agreeing with them). i am not saying that we shouldnt criticize, but to know what we are talking about, accurately and truthfully 100%.

    I am not trying to pass any rumors, on the contrary as you mentioned, i am trying to debase them. I will try to prove to you all the points of criticism that I made inshaAllah and here and here it comes:

    - They are liberal in their views when it comes to Fiqh in America

    This is proven by pointing out the two upcoming points.

    - They permit music on the bases of a difference of opinion in the Shafi’ school

    I spoke to Imam Suhaib myself when he was in Houston and he explained to me why he promoted Outlandish (<herf=http://www.suhaibwebb.com/blog/general/mas-youth-presents-voices-for-change/click here) and he told me that he allowed it due to the fact that there is no consensus. He said that amongst the Shafi school of thought there is difference of opinion. (I think its worthy to note here that all the other three Madhahib said that Music is haram and even the Shafis’ said that as well. so this is rather the minority opinion)

    - They are less strict on inter-gender relationships

    I can tell you this from (a) experience with them (b) from the testimony of the people of Dallas. Evens where its openly promoted that brothers and sisters can hang out with each other has taken place. The logic behind that is, I’d rather have them do this under our supervision than do it outside behind our backs… which is of0 course flawed logic as it is clear to be so.

    - They are power hungry. They always want to control their community.

    The hardcore MAS organizers wholeheartedly believe that MAS has the proper way of the reforming this Ummah and bringing it back to what it used to be. And based on that, they have initiated programs that covers pretty much all aspects of the Muslim live in the west. Starting from scouts, youth, sisters, women, usras, tarbiya, camps, hajj groups, and conventions, ending up with political involvement, civil rights, lobbying, and even campaigning for certain pro-Muslim candidates.

    The question now is, in the mind of any person who believes in the Mission of MAS in America, don’t you think that they deserve to lead any community? I mean why not? They, supposedly, got it all so why not be the community leaders. And here is the problem. They clash with others who also think that they should be the community leaders which makes both parties look like power hungry.

    - They are media hungry. They always wish to be on the news.

    This is only logical and I dont think should be criticized or looked at as a negative thing, nonetheless though, its true. I have seen it happen and I experienced it in so many cases. This aids the over all movement to be seen as a “mainstream and moderate” movement that aims for the best of their community; not only from the point of view of the community but also from the point of view of the non-Muslim media and politicians.

    - They aim to start an Islamic State (Caliphate) <- this is mainly directed from the Western Media

    You can google that if you wish.

    - Some of their halaqaat is very secretive (the Usra system is a system where they educate those who follow their ideology about matters of deen aka Tarbiya program)

    I was invited to couple of those before and I refused to go. Not only because its done behind closed doors but because I didnt agree with the “secretive” element of it. If its legit, why not have it in the masjid and open to the public. The response that I got was, that its a “Tarbiya” program where we learn more about our deen in a more advance and concentrated manner. My response was, it still can be open to the public…..

    - They are not creative and always repeat what other organizations are already doing. This is clear in so many instances.

    Well… where do you want me to start? You see, the whole reason why MAS came about (as they mentioned on their national site) they said “Since its inception, ISNA, and other organizations affiliated with it, worked diligently with those who were to become the founding members and future leadership of MAS, towards the advancement of the cause of Islam and Muslims in North America.” This basically means that they came about because they didnt approve of “ISNA” and its works. They wanted to “advance” the cause of of Islam and Muslims in N.America.

    But to make this more clear, here are some examples:
    1- The whole convention idea came about after ISNA and ICNA started it.
    2- The Islamic American University http://www.islamicau.org came after the American Open University http://www.aou.edu/
    3- MAS Council of Imams http://masnet.org/counimams.asp came after NAIF (North American Imam Federation) http://www.naif-net.org/index.html
    4- On a more local level, you can go ask any non-MAS organization in your locality and I am sure they will share some of their stories.

    - They charge people to become part of their movement. (If you didnt know, in order to be an active member of MAS, you must pay 2.5% of your monthly growth income. Look at their membership forms)

    Look at their membership form.

    - They are called Wahhabis. This is a mistake though, matter of fact, they stand against one of the fundamental ideas of Wahhabis which is “Its Haram to go against the Muslim ruler”

    I have already stated my opinion on the statement above.

    You said:

    for the sake of argument, u being affiliated with al-maghrib, is it fair if i made an observation/criticism that al-maghrib is (fill in the blank) and ran with it, even before taking a class or after superficially interacting with you. wouldnt you feel ur reputation and honor damaged?

    Just to clear this up, I am not affliated with AlMaghrib. I used to volunteer for them and I passed on the torch alhamdulillah.

    The assumption that I superficially interacted with MAS and I am just trying to damage their reputation is simply incorrect. I have dealt with them more than a few times, some of which didnt have happy ending and others did. I have seen them at their best where in Houston and I have seen them at their worst. I have volunteered for them a few times as well. So I know a little bit more than just a superficial knowledge.

    As if somebody states that AlMaghrib is (fill in the blank), then I would as for the proof just like you did so I can prove him/her to be false … or maybe he/she has some truth that I didnt know about. Either way, I would be open minded about it (just like you, i assume) and ask politely.

    As for the last I don’t disagree with you main points, mashaAllah, I think you are a good, ethical, polite brother (or sister). And I appreciate you initiating this conversation.

    Jazakom Allahu khayran
    Haytham

  9. anon Says:

    jazak Allah khair…that reply in itself deserves a post! may Allah reward u in this life and in the hereafter!

  10. haytham Says:

    :) Ameen..

    At the end of the day, i agree to disagree… with no problems or hard feelings..

    As for the up coming two posts about salafis and sufis… all i can say is… so help me god :)

  11. zfnd Says:

    “…….but this is very confusing. Look at the statement itself: we are not ikhwan,[but] we have taken some of their principles that work. ”

    Amazing that you pointed the statement to be illogical.

    I breezed over it not giving it a second thought, but if you stop and think, it really does not make much sense to extract principles from a source without acknowledging a degree of influence, at the very least.

    Thanks for that.

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  13. Dawud Israel Says:

    This has got to be the funniest comment I’ve ever read lol.
    Keep up the conversation Haytham! :)

    Quote:
    do u have a source or validity to what u say? or is just heresy?

    sorry, i meant “hearsay”, not heresy…please forgive me!

    LOLOL

  14. abulhaarith Says:

    As Salaamu Alaikum Brother Haytham,

    It is good how you have mentioned a basic look into what the Ikhwaan al Muslimeen consider themselves to be. I posted a reply on my blog with a bit more detail on the foundations of the Ikhwaan al Muslimeen which may interest you.

    BarakAllaahu feek.

  15. abuhanifa Says:

    Br. Haytham,

    you statement-”I was invited to couple of those before and I refused to go. Not only because its done behind closed doors but because I didnt agree with the “secretive” element of it. If its legit, why not have it in the masjid and open to the public.”

    I have to disagree with your statement about the Usrah. First, Usrah means what? it simply means family. Usrah halaqas are done in one of the brothers or sisters house to bond each other as true brotherhood and sisterhood. I used to think first that Usrah should be open to everyone, why someone house? But, then as i grew older, I came to appreciate more because the brotherhood, the love and care of each other grows stronger and stronger. If halaqa are done openly and publicly, how many people show interest? 5 people ? ten people? come on. lets be realistic. we know halaqa dont function right at the masjid. there is no commitment for people to attend halaqas. So, brother Haytham, you dont understand or someone didnt give you clear understanding why halaqas are done at the homes instead making public for people.

    Also, what do you mean with your statement “I have seen them at their best where in Houston and I have seen them at their worst”

    MAS has its weaknesses as any Muslim organization out there. No one is perfect, however, they do their best to serve the Muslim community.

  16. haytham Says:

    Jazakom Allahu Khayran for clarifying the concept of the Usra. Though I wasnt talking about the “privacy” of those meetings… its their secrecy … does that make sense to you?!

    As what for the statement that you quoted above… What I mean is… i have seen them do good things and I have seen them do -not too good- things …

  17. abulhaarith Says:

    Salam alaikum akhee,

    I posted on the Ikhwaan al Muslimoon here which you may like to read.

    http://abulhaarith.wordpress.com/category/the-ikhwaan-al-muslimoon/

  18. jaide kareem Says:

    patiently waiting for the next edition (not!!!) salaams :)

  19. haytham Says:

    Jaide… lol… thanks for your encouragement (not!!!) lOl

    The fact of the matter is I became super sick subhan Allah few days after writing this article, then i had finals, then I went home for the holidays and Texas Dawah Convention, then came back about a week ago…

    I have had a few brothers who contacted me asking me not to post any more of this series for one reason or the other.. which I still dont understand why… i m point out the facts with so letter bias (as much as possible)..

    Again, please read part I of this series to understand why i took this decision to write about this topic..

    :)

  20. jaide kareem Says:

    May The Most High bless you with good health and beneficial circumstances for a speedy recovery tooo get to work!!! on the next edition. lol

    Tell those brothers you got your hater blockers on (rayband)
    you can’t see’em..you got our support!

    We’re all Ummah..lighten up ;)

    Salaams.

  21. umm ayyoub Says:

    Brother Haytahm, Where is “Who or what is an Ikhwani, Salafi, and Sufi – Part III” ????? I could not find the link. Please point me to it.

  22. Abu Ayyoob Says:

    As Salaamu Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa barakatahu

    It is a good article elucidating who the ikhwaanis are but I would like to remind you that labeling certain groups as ikhwani, salafi or sufi might not be appropriate since people change as do leaders of organizations.

    Abu Ayyoob.


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